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Post Posted: Jan 15, 2018 10:36 am 
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I have been hoping to hear some real substance from Park County Sheriff candidates, so I found the following Mike Brown statement interesting:


Potential voters are likely to discern interesting similarities in the platform document statements provided by candidates for election as Park County Sheriff. The platform documents reveal substantial consensus regarding what each candidate indicates as issues and deficiencies identified as needing to be addressed to restore the Park County Sheriff’s Department to an agency that can provide superior law enforcement services to Park County residents.
Key points of candidate consensus relate to “professionalism”, “personnel retention”, “personnel training”, and the “need to restore resident trust in the Department”.
Interested potential voters may legitimately question the sincerity of some candidates now expressing concerns regarding serious deficiencies and problems within the Department in which they have served. Some may question the sincerity of the candidates actually having held positions and associated authority affording them ability to address such concerns previously.
Recent events have provided residents more than adequate evidence that the concerns raised by candidates are reasonable and valid. There are systemic problems within the Sheriff’s Department that demand immediate remediation. When the systemic environment is one in which the most competent personnel only stay long enough to secure more favored employment, it is impossible to maintain an appropriately experienced and well trained pool of deputies. Clearly the situation is not one that can be explained merely by lack of comparable pay and benefits. Repeated studies have shown that while pay and benefits are a motivating factor, work environment, potential for advancement, and job satisfaction are typically cited as having higher importance to law enforcement personnel. This is not surprising, as those who seek careers in law enforcement are typically individuals seeking positions in which they can serve others and find satisfaction in a personal knowledge that their efforts provide opportunity to have personal impact in helping others in dangerous and stressful situations. Most of the individuals entering law enforcement derive personal satisfaction from belief that they are working for a greater societal good.
Potential voters must look beyond the language incorporated within a candidate’s provided platform statements. Voters must demand that each candidate actually detail precisely how he intends to reduce lofty statements to practical and realistic actions and processes that can truly result in a Department structure and operation that demonstrates professionalism, a work environment that encourages personnel retention, and support and funding that provide personnel with appropriate training and real advancement possibility. The best law enforcement agencies exhibit significant commitment to policies and practices that incorporate agency focus on maintaining a community policing approach and a cooperative citizen centered approach that seeks to work closely with those served, crafted to ensure provision of law enforcement services that meet and address pertinent citizen concerns.
Reassuring words may be comforting, but the real substance lies in difficult actions taken to bring meaning beyond simplistic warm and fuzzy statements.

Mike Brown
Candidate for Park County Sheriff


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Post Posted: Jan 16, 2018 5:26 pm 
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Substance? There are plenty of words there, but what's he going to do if elected?

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Post Posted: Jan 16, 2018 9:12 pm 
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Considering the situation a newly elected Sheriff will inherit with all that is wrong with the agency and jail, for me,having spent years in Federal, State, and local law enforcement service,the worst possible election outcome would be to learn that I had actually won the election. It is fortunate for our candidates that almost no one will expect, or demand, that they are able to provide coherent and specific details regarding how they would effect corrective measures.


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Post Posted: Jan 17, 2018 7:23 pm 
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In reply to hearing from Sheriff candidates: Please consider coming to the Dream Stream Cafe on Saturday January 20th at 9:00 am. I will be there to share my views and vision for the Sheriff's Office. I can be found on facebook @tommcgrawforparkcountysheriff, my website is under construction and should be up in the next day or so. My experience of over 35 years in law enforcement at the local, county and state level are unmatched, I am well equipped to provide the citizens of Park County with the service and protection they deserve from their Sheriff’s Office.

There is an undeniable and overwhelming support for change at the Park County Sheriff's Office. As your Sheriff, I will provide the leadership, training and example necessary to implement a professional department. I have a tremendous amount of experience and am committed to working effectively with people of varying backgrounds, attitudes, opinions, and beliefs. Please join me.


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Post Posted: Jan 17, 2018 8:13 pm 
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All I can say is that while I love my community all this Sherriff stuff is very sad and if you want to close your eyes to all that has happened then close them.

I will not debate this topic you can vote for whomever but remember you will also have to live with that vote.

I know I will be able to sleep at night.


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Post Posted: Jan 18, 2018 9:28 am 
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It would be nice, for those of us who don't live in Fairplay, to know where this cafe is. The address is 351 US Hwy 285 Unit A, Fairplay, CO 80440 Phone: (719) 838-4042. I'm guessing it's by the Sinclair but correct me if I'm wrong.

No kidding we need a CHANGE! I keep trying to find out how an undersheriff can run for sheriff after he was fired and paid $188K severance. That's the figure I've been told.


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Post Posted: Jan 18, 2018 10:20 am 
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I have been hoping to hear some real substance from Park County Sheriff candidates, so I found the following Mike Brown statement interesting:


Potential voters are likely to discern interesting similarities in the platform document statements provided by candidates for election as Park County Sheriff. The platform documents reveal substantial consensus regarding what each candidate indicates as issues and deficiencies identified as needing to be addressed to restore the Park County Sheriff’s Department to an agency that can provide superior law enforcement services to Park County residents.
Key points of candidate consensus relate to “professionalism”, “personnel retention”, “personnel training”, and the “need to restore resident trust in the Department”.
Interested potential voters may legitimately question the sincerity of some candidates now expressing concerns regarding serious deficiencies and problems within the Department in which they have served. Some may question the sincerity of the candidates actually having held positions and associated authority affording them ability to address such concerns previously.
Recent events have provided residents more than adequate evidence that the concerns raised by candidates are reasonable and valid. There are systemic problems within the Sheriff’s Department that demand immediate remediation. When the systemic environment is one in which the most competent personnel only stay long enough to secure more favored employment, it is impossible to maintain an appropriately experienced and well trained pool of deputies. Clearly the situation is not one that can be explained merely by lack of comparable pay and benefits. Repeated studies have shown that while pay and benefits are a motivating factor, work environment, potential for advancement, and job satisfaction are typically cited as having higher importance to law enforcement personnel. This is not surprising, as those who seek careers in law enforcement are typically individuals seeking positions in which they can serve others and find satisfaction in a personal knowledge that their efforts provide opportunity to have personal impact in helping others in dangerous and stressful situations. Most of the individuals entering law enforcement derive personal satisfaction from belief that they are working for a greater societal good.
Potential voters must look beyond the language incorporated within a candidate’s provided platform statements. Voters must demand that each candidate actually detail precisely how he intends to reduce lofty statements to practical and realistic actions and processes that can truly result in a Department structure and operation that demonstrates professionalism, a work environment that encourages personnel retention, and support and funding that provide personnel with appropriate training and real advancement possibility. The best law enforcement agencies exhibit significant commitment to policies and practices that incorporate agency focus on maintaining a community policing approach and a cooperative citizen centered approach that seeks to work closely with those served, crafted to ensure provision of law enforcement services that meet and address pertinent citizen concerns.
Reassuring words may be comforting, but the real substance lies in difficult actions taken to bring meaning beyond simplistic warm and fuzzy statements.

Mike Brown
Candidate for Park County Sheriff


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Post Posted: Jan 18, 2018 10:24 am 
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Dream Stream Café is located in the shopping center at the light in Fairplay. 285 and 9


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Post Posted: Jan 18, 2018 10:29 am 
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That would be everyone's question. It was easy for him to "slither" away from the Carrigan situation as he knew well that he had this "card" in his contract to be played if anything ever went "awry" of being Undersheriff. When fired "I can always use this card and tell everyone I "resigned". The amount was exactly 2 years of his salary. (wage of 60k per year=$130k) It is very apparent that he was terminated after the useless shooting of Mr. Carrigan. (You can read this in the Denver Post's 2 articles) I'm hoping and praying that the Federal Court case happens BEFORE the election, (lawsuits, there are 4 against the Sheriffs Office by Carrigans and Deputies involved, so why isn't Monte filing a lawsuit?) then we'll know the real truth of his part played in it. He should be ashamed to even try to run for our Sheriff.


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Post Posted: Jan 18, 2018 10:38 am 
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We need snowman and others who feel strongly about the Sheriff election to use this forum to promote a constructive discussion. My thinking is that potential voters must consider the election as a means to move beyond the experience of the past and effect changes that will result in a far better Sheriff’s Department. This can only occur if voters demonstrate interest and involvement. So far, six candidates have come forward. Four appear to have either minimal, or no, connection with past Department officials and higher level Department operations. All current candidates have presented a consensus view of significant and substantial problems and deficiencies relating to Department operations, but we have yet to have any candidate actually detail how they intend to restore the Department to a properly functioning entity capable of providing superior law enforcement services responsive to citizen interests and concerns.
Managing the day to day operations of a modern law enforcement agency is truly a daunting undertaking. That is why voters in places served by larger metro area Sheriff’s Departments typically are more comfortable electing individuals having prior experience serving as Division Chiefs, thus having demonstrated practical ability to best assume operational responsibly.
Park County voters find themselves in a different position as they seek to cast an informed vote. At initial consideration, only Monte Gore appears to have relevant experience that would afford him ability to quickly get up to speed in running the Department. The problem is that Gore’s apparent strength is also his greatest weakness. Gore’s past experience would indicate his personal complicity in having played an essential role in creation of the very Department other candidates have indicated is in fundamental disarray requiring extensive remediation. Clearly past behavior is a key indicator of future behavior.
A number of the other candidates possess relevant prior law enforcement experience, and at least one also possesses a four year criminal justice degree. This combination of experience and demonstrated education would appear to indicate an individual having made a substantial personal commitment to excellence in his chosen profession.
Many potential voters I have talked to tell me that they have already chosen a candidate. In conversation they are unable to explain the rational basis for their choice, and it seems that such choice is largely based on their impression of the personality of the candidate and on the fact that the candidate has coached some local school team or engaged in some other community program. I would have preferred that their choice was based on an informed assessment of what is presented by the candidate in a rigorous debate and disclosure process relating to information specific to each candidate’s explanation of why they are best prepared to run a progressive and responsive Department based on their relevant experience, training, education, and personal characteristics.
I really don’t care much about what a good guy a candidate is perceived as being, or how well he is thought of as a coach, or within his local community. I care more about whether the candidate displays superior moral and ethical character and is fundamentally capable of delivering a Sheriff’s Department committed and prepared to fully serve Park County citizens in a professional manner and with an objective of involving citizens as valued partners in all aspects of rendering that service. I believe that we all owe Kolby, Travis, and Nate’s loved ones at least that much.


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Post Posted: Jan 18, 2018 10:41 am 
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If anyone is interested there is a FB group whose sole purpose is to give candidates exposure and members to ask questions etc.
I'm not pro or con on it or its content or moderation, just sharing its existence for your search for information about candidates.


https://www.facebook.com/groups/1972658 ... highlights


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Post Posted: Jan 18, 2018 10:44 am 
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MY biggest question is, how did this man come from Summit County Jail earning probably a lot less than the 60k he was getting at the PCSO, to Park county Jail (his first job at the Sheriffs Office) to purchasing a $698k home on 10 acres of land in south Park? http://www.parkco.org/namesearchresults2.asp. And PLEASE don't tell me his wife earns a ton of money with her position with PC Senior Coalition.


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