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 Post subject: Re: Park Sheriff election
Post Posted: Feb 9, 2018 1:35 pm 
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Your comments are clearly designed to cast yourself in a completely positive light while casting current officers in a negative light.

It's not at all clear to me, from most of GG's posts. It is evidently how you are "clearly" interpreting them. I have seen evidence in the past of your misinterpretations.

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Post Posted: Feb 9, 2018 2:01 pm 
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Thank you for your response. Dismissing your negative comments directed toward me, I can better respect that you have come out from the shadows and provided a sense of where you are coming from. My concern was that you might have some relevant law enforcement experience, and had that been the case, I would not have felt it right for me to consider your personal opinions as having less significance. Please do not take from this that I would dismiss the opinion of those having no law enforcement experience. It is just that I, understandably, would reasonably attribute greater reliance on the opinions and knowledge of those having reputable relevant law enforcement investigative experience. I appreciate your interest and participation in the forum. I would point out that you exhibit great hubris in your belief that, having taught in a correctional facility, you possess the knowledge and experience comparable to that of a trained and experienced law enforcement investigator.


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 Post subject: Re: Park Sheriff election
Post Posted: Feb 9, 2018 2:19 pm 
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The S.O. response to the public on the Maggie Long case is another reason Park County needs a total change of leadership and direction from our Sheriff's Department. We need an outsider with excellent credentials and experience so us citizens in Park County don't get "gored" by the good old boys club again. Check out Gary Rhoads. Experience, education, Park County ties, respectable with a modern and fresh outlook for law enfocements place and role in our mountain community.


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Post Posted: Feb 9, 2018 2:22 pm 
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Having come from a law enforcement family, many who have had positions much higher than county deputy, I find some of the comments by the so-called experts questionable--like the one stating a law enforcement officer is affected by the death of one of our deputies more than the general public. That is an assumption I doubt can be proven and is insulting to the community. Also, the comments regarding how the State Patrol only deals in traffic situations shows a great lack of knowledge of the patrol. FYI, Gary Rhoads has been a death investigator for the last 8 years. If you had done any research, you would know that. Same with your lack of detail on some of the other candidates.

I rarely look at this site because of the unsubstantiated comments displayed. Also the whining about the lack of a specific question on the ParkCountyElections2018 page that did not address certain issues is the fault only of the person complaining. The public was invited to submit questions they would like to be submitted to the candidates. If anyone didn't submit the question to which they wanted an answer, I can only blame the person who passed up the opportunity. For more informed information from ALL of the candidates, I would suggest the ParkCountyElections2018 site on Facebook. It is from the candidates themselves and is well monitored and does not allow disrespect toward any candidate.


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Post Posted: Feb 9, 2018 2:45 pm 
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dieselpop,
I will not allow you to completely misrepresent my opinion regarding our local Deputies. I have repeatedly expressed my deep and sincere respect for our law enforcement officers. I could never have anything but the highest respect for what they do for all of us. They put their lives at risk every day to ensure that we are protected. And, if possible, I have even greater respect for their loved ones who provide our officers blessed support and love, while knowing that they could be taken from them at any time. My disrespect and personal disdain is reserved for their Command officers who have treated them with disrespect and without proper care and concern for their safety and welfare. My father served as a Federal law enforcement officer. I served in law enforcement. Our son serves as a law enforcement Command officer. You need to cease your misrepresentations immediately. You also need to appreciate that our courageous law enforcement men and women serve to protect the right for someone like you to disseminate whatever crap you see fit. You lack even the most basic understanding of what those men and women, and their loved ones, have to deal with every tour of duty.


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Post Posted: Feb 9, 2018 3:17 pm 
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My apologies for failing to document that Rhoads served in capacity of medicolegal death investigator while serving as a CSP Sergeant. I had the understanding that those serving as medicolegal death investigators primarily served under the jurisdiction of medical examiners or coroners, acting to investigate unexplained and unexpected deaths. My understanding has been that law enforcement was responsible for investigation of deaths resulting from determined criminal incident and processing of associated crime scenes. Clearly my lack of knowledge resulted in my failure to appropriately indicate this aspect of his law enforcement experience.
I would respectfully ask that in future you avoid language that carries such negative inferences as to improper objective and intent. There is no need for that. You can exhibit passionate support for your candidate of choice without becoming abusive.

I also need to report that I have had some welcome follow up conversation with John Tighe. John informed me that in the course of prior conversation, he failed to inform me that he has had considerable SWAT training and experience. It would be difficult to be more impressed with his experience and his demeanor.


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 Post subject: Meet & Greet with Tom McGraw
Post Posted: Feb 9, 2018 3:21 pm 
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Park County Sheriff Candidate Tom McGraw has scheduled two opportunities for our Bailey community to get to know him

Friday, Feb. 9 @ 6pm at Crow Hill Café
Saturday, Feb 10 @ 2pm at Shepherd of the Rockies Lutheran Church

I look forward to hearing what he has to say.


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Post Posted: Feb 9, 2018 5:30 pm 
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The following is the body of an email message IndieGirl forwarded to me through my personal email account.

“It is very sad that you post like you know what you're talking about, but miss much pertinent info on the candidates. Gary Rhoades has been a death investigator for Adams and Broomfield counties for the last 8 years. And if you think State Patrol officers do only traffic stops, I suggest you talk to them before making that claim. You would be better off to move your discussion to the ParkCountyElections2018 website on Facebook for more accurate info.”

Okay, so much for ceasing abusive statements. I’m going to take the high road and assume that IndieGirl does not intend to create a false narrative regarding candidate Rhoads’ record of relevant law enforcement experience. When Indie Girl cites Rhoads’ experience working as a medicolegal death investigator, my hope is that she does not intend to forward the impression that he has served as a criminal investigator for the Adams County Sheriff Department, or the Broomfield County Sheriff Department. Such impression would convey the appearance that Rhoads’ service was in the capacity of conducting investigations as an employee of those departments, working as a commissioned criminal investigator doing investigations of criminal acts, to include a focus on those cases involving serious assaults, manslaughter, and homicides.
My research has confirmed that my initial understanding of the actual duties and responsibilities associated with the role of medicolegal death investigator was correct, and that Rhoads had never functioned in the position of CSP medicolegal death investigator.
Likely, IndieGirl actually has no understanding of the significantly different roles and responsibilities associated with the duties of medicolegal death investigators and those of law enforcement criminal investigators.
Let me make it precisely clear that I, in no way, want to diminish the experience of candidate Rhoads. I have to believe that he would never condone any attempt to misrepresent the actual record of his experience. I also do not believe that he would represent that his CSP duties did not involve extensive primary focus on traffic enforcement matters.
I also want to be clear that this incident should be viewed as in no way attaching any adverse inference regarding the character or integrity of candidate Rhoads.


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 Post subject: Re: Park Sheriff election
Post Posted: Feb 9, 2018 6:17 pm 
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So the tone has shifted in your posts from inferences about PCSO “problems” to one of sincerity and concern for just being helpful so “that potential voters would exercise a critical requirement and responsibility of citizenship and do the hard work of becoming sufficiently involved to cast an informed vote”.

Ever since your thread on “The Cover-up Continues” you’ve planted seeds of discontent based on certain “false premises” of your own invention. That seed-planting has continued into this thread. Much of this is supported by your references to some previous experience as an LEO and connections to the law enforcement community. This implies you having held high rank to casual readers. I read it as amateur wannabe ramblings of someone with an axe to grind against the SO.

An example of these ”false premises” is the concept that command experience is critical for a prospective candidate for the office of Sheriff. The important consideration here is LEADERSHIP. Having a Sheriff that the Deputies trust and will follow has got to be the most important element of the position with the talent for delegating to those who best can fill each job coming second. This demands the right personality and a familiarity with the agency, not the best resume.

For instance: I knew Matt Lewis when he was a Mesa County Patrol Sergeant and later when he promoted to Detective Sergeant with the same agency. The next I heard from him he was the new Sheriff of Mesa County. Sheriff Lewis was never a watch commander, division commander or Undersheriff, but seemed to be able to successfully make the cut as the leader of a much larger agency than we have here.

Now it's shifted to the Maggie Long homicide and even with the immediate call to the major outsde agencies to assist, it's still being called a fault of PCSO because it hasen't been solved in "The First 48". What did you expect from the press conference? A full and total briefing on all the details and leads being pursued? Stand down and maybe thank the Sheriff for being as forthright as he could be on a very delicate subject. Holy cow, haters gonna hate.

The subject of CALEA accredidation was brought up and again Command is failing because PCSO isn't accredited. Former JeffCo Sheriff Ted Mink said JeffCo's accreditation cost them $100,000 and requires a full-time accreditation manager. Is that a reasonable expectation for a agency with 18 Patrol Deputies? Seriously?

For someone to suggest these as important to the election displays either a total misunderstanding of how things work in the real world or a subversive undermining of the Sheriff’s Office. The implied superior knowledge of hinted-at insights based on LEO experience I read as ego stroking.


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Post Posted: Feb 9, 2018 6:34 pm 
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dieselpop1 wrote:
Glad you asked. I like Rhoads.


I would encourage everyone to check out Gary Rhoads experience. I think he is exactly the change that Park County needs. Experience, Honesty and Integrity. Gary is more than willing to sit down and anyswer questions with anyone. Please take the time to check him out or even better, attend one of his Meet and Greets. I don't think you will be disappointed. :)


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You will see I am the right choice for Park County Sheriff.
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