Park Sheriff election (Merged Topics)
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Author:  Tom2018 [ Feb 12, 2018 12:20 pm ]
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Meet Tom McGraw, your candidate for Park County Sheriff


Together we will bring back trust in your Sheriff's Office

Come out and meet Tom and get your questions answered!

Bailey Public Library this FRIDAY February 16th, 6:00 pm

Author:  Guyot guy [ Feb 14, 2018 12:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Park Sheriff election

I finally had an opportunity to have an in-depth conversation with candidate Mike Brown similar to discussions I have engaged in with several of the other candidates for Sheriff. Mike has been very busy with his work in a supervisory position within the DOC Parole oversight program, and we have struggled to find a time when we could discuss his campaign.
Mike tells me that he appreciates potential voter concern about candidate experience and related ability to assume the duties associated with being our Sheriff. He told me that he completely understands the significance and relevance of concerns and he challenges all other candidates to join him in a pledge. The pledge is that if elected, each candidate commits that if, at the end of their term of office, they cannot demonstrate significant and substantive improvements in areas of critical importance identified by all candidates, they will not pursue a second term. Mike told me that he realizes that potential voters will have to make a substantial leap of faith, and he feels an obligation for candidates to make such an ethical commitment to potential voters.

Author:  G-BONC [ Feb 14, 2018 1:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Park Sheriff election

An interesting question to ask each of the candidates would be:

"If you were elected, how many of the existing department would resign/seek another job?"

Author:  Guyot guy [ Feb 14, 2018 1:33 pm ]
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Now that is indeed an interesting question. I can tell you from personal experience that election time is a stressful period for Sheriff department personnel. You try to stay out of the mix and hope you are not viewed as in any way involved in the politics. Not easy. Normally, if front line Deputies keep their heads down, they end up being exempt from any house cleaning. Typically there are no "firings", with a Sheriff simply electing not to recommission.
What are your thoughts?

Author:  MSHENKE [ Feb 14, 2018 2:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Park Sheriff election

A few years ago I obtained my CDL, and after 7 months OTR, I came home to Bailey to be issued a speeding ticket on CR43 after it had been chip sealed. The County chose to post 15 MPH signage (3) THREE days after the chip seal had been applied. The deputy who wrote me the citation flippantly stated that with my CDL, "I should have known better"! Several days after my verbal and poignant protest paying the fine, I had two Deputies show up in my driveway with a warrant for someone with no picture. After proving to one of the deputies that I was not who they were seeking, they suddenly changed their story and left. Coincidence? What about when the deputy who was dismissed for firearm discharge and Carrigan showed up on my deck to "retrieve uniforms" from me after I left employment with a Denver contractor? I don't think that Park taxpayers want to see SD resources used to execute harrassment warrants and retrieve uniforms. Do I need to even mention the Wirth incident? I really don't care who wins, but rest assured that a large part of the people here are going to be paying CLOSE attention to the actions of the SD. Flip Side- I do know of several deputies whom I consider beyond reproach- But just like in the Marines, it's the 10% that screw it up for the rest-

Author:  Garance [ Feb 14, 2018 8:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Park Sheriff election

Welcome back to Bailey, brother. "Don't let the btards get you down." Always do the right thing.
What kind of sheriff do we want?

Author:  Sundancer [ Feb 15, 2018 4:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Park County Sherriff Candidates Meet and Greet - Bailey Area

There are two meet and greets coming up on this side of the pass that are very convenient for Bailey. Good opportunity to learn about
the candidates.

Tom McGraw - Friday February February 16th 6 PM
Bailey Library, lower level 350 Bulldogger Rd, Bailey

Monte Gore - Thursday February 22nd 5 PM
Shepherd of the Rockies, 106 Rosalie Rd. Bailey

Author:  Guyot guy [ Feb 16, 2018 12:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Park Sheriff election (Merged Topics)

I have been thinking about what I have learned from my conversations with some Sheriff candidates, and the candidate responses to questions drafted by Facebook election page participants.
My thinking is that each candidate can be considered to belong in one of three functional groupings. There are the “change” candidates that can be subdivided into two distinct “change” subcategories. Then there are the “stay the course” candidates.
McGraw, Brown, and Rhoads are the change candidates, with Brown being in the basic “change” category, and McGraw and Rhoads being in the “change/outsider” category.
Brown advocates significant and substantive changes in Department operations and fundamental philosophy. He had extensive prior Department experience and left the Department citing strong disagreement with Department policy and procedure, particularly as these related to interactions with citizens.
McGraw and Rhoads view they bring significant benefit through being complete outsiders, having no prior experience with the Department in capacity as insiders.
McGraw and Rhoads assert the position that what they have observed from the outside convinces them that they have adequate information about serious problems and deficiencies that require extensive change.
Gore, Spodyak, and Tighe were also Department insiders, but unlike Brown, they essentially belong in the “stay the course” category, believing that there is no need for significant and substantial change.
There are interesting differences in the candidates who are in the “stay the course” category.
I have previously indicated my personal respect for Tighe’s broad experience, character and apparent integrity. However, reading his responses to the Facebook group questions, I’m not sure how he can gain significant voter support. Gore would clearly appear to be the candidate of choice for those who believe that he and Wegener properly ran the Department, but that he had been disrespected and mistreated in the process of his dismissal. It is clear through contacts and conversations that some believe that having essentially run the Department, Wegener had treated him as the “fall guy” to assume personal blame for the Wirth eviction debacle.
Spodyak has staked out the ultimate “stay the course” position, having obtained Wegener’s endorsement.
This points out my confusion about exactly where, and how, Tighe fits into the “stay the course” mix. In his response to the Facebook group questions, Tighe indicates his belief that the Department has good Command staff officers in place, and he perceives no need to consider any Command changes. Here is the apparent problem with this; Spodyak has already staked out the strongest “stay the course” candidate position, having Wegener’s blessing. I just don’t see how this will work for Tighe.

Author:  dieselpop1 [ Feb 16, 2018 12:48 pm ]
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If someone with an axe to grind is elected there's no way to tell who might get burned by the sparks.

Author:  Tom2018 [ Feb 16, 2018 1:21 pm ]
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Tonight would be a good night to come out and ask all your questions and hear first hand what I will bring to the PCSO. I will be at the Bailey Public Library at 6:00 pm.

Author:  Guyot guy [ Feb 16, 2018 6:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Park Sheriff election (Merged Topics)

There is a lively discussion taking place on the Facebook election page about events relating to Gore's departure from the Sheriff's Department. I recall my thought at the time that what happened might present a problem for him if he later decided to run for Sheriff. Immediately after the Wirth eviction incident, talk came out about Wegener voicing strong dissatisfaction with Gore's actions relating to some aspect of the incident. Within a day it was revealed that Wegener was stating that his problem with Gore involved the claim that Gore had made a number of intentional false statements concerning aspects of the Wirth eviction incident. My recollection is that Wegener further stated that Gore had a troubling history of making false statements. At the time I thought that as more information came out it might provide some much needed insight into relevant aspects of the eviction incident. However, within days information came out about negotiations that led to the separation agreement, and there has been no further information about what led to Gore's departure from the Department. It will be interesting to see if questions about that departure will have unanticipated adverse impact on Gore's candidacy.

Author:  Hendrik [ Feb 16, 2018 9:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Park Sheriff election (Merged Topics)

Attended the Tom McGraw for sheriff meeting tonight. I like what I heard. I also like bringing in experienced new blood in leadership. As of now, he has my vote.

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