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 Post subject: Stem Cell Therapy
Post Posted: Apr 10, 2018 9:10 am 
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Has anyone out there had stem cell therapy? What is involved? Did it work or even help? I'm curious; both of my knees and shoulders are trashed. Thanks for any info!


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Post Posted: Apr 10, 2018 12:25 pm 
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I have 2 friends who have undergone stem cell treatment. One friend is an "Iron Man" competitor who had injured her knee. She was told that if she had traditional surgery, she would never compete again. She instead chose the stem cell treatment and within 2-3 months was back running 10 miles a day. My other friend suffered from a shoulder injury compounded by side-effects from a certain antibiotic she was prescribed. She too chose stem cell in place of surgery, and though it will take a little longer for her to regain full mobility, within 2 weeks she was using her shoulder again. Also, the treatment was very affordable, which is an important factor since most - if not all - insurance companies will not cover the treatment.

This link is to the clinic that my 2nd friend used and highly recommends. In addition to the information on the website, you can request an information packet and/or sign up for one of their educational seminars: https://centenoschultz.com/


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Post Posted: Apr 10, 2018 2:07 pm 
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Stem cell therapy is not covered by insurance. It is not considered proven technology. It is very expensive. I need both of my knee joints replaced and I am trying to delay the surgery for a couple or more years as technology keeps getting better and I need to financially prepare for it.


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Do your research!! There are several different types of procedures and different sources of the stem cells. Go to several free consults (bring your xrays, MRI, CT). Ask each clinic to critique their competition. You'll learn a lot!!!

Basically it can help speed up the healing process. But if you have an injury that can not possibly heal on it's own (tendon/ligament completely detached from the bone) then it will not help you.

Some places will offer their treatment even if you are not a good candidate for it. So buyer beware.

Just because it worked miracles for a friend does not mean it will be beneficial to you. Each case is different.


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Post Posted: Apr 13, 2018 8:53 am 
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Thank you for this post. It is good to explore things in the medical field before jumping in.

If you Google 'quackery or real stem cell for shoulder' you'll find plenty of reading warning folks off of this, including FDA. When stem cell treatment companies talk about curing autism and spinal cord injuries, you have to stop and say HUH?

I have ongoing issues with a shoulder where I had rotator cuff repair surgery, followed by a second surgery to scope out the bits that were coming off causing pain. I have arthritis in this shoulder and next step for me is total replacement. Well, I am nowhere near ready to do this and when I saw this post starting some research to see if this was an option for me. At this point, it is a firm, no. However, I will discuss it with my orthopaedist the next time I am in.

In my view, from my research, this is still in the quackery phase.


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Stem cell therapy is not covered by insurance. It is not considered proven technology. It is very expensive. I need both of my knee joints replaced and I am trying to delay the surgery for a couple or more years as technology keeps getting better and I need to financially prepare for it.

crowhillrob, I too have trouble with my knees. My left knee was so painful that I almost thought I would have to give up hiking for a while. And since my gait was so affected, I started having trouble with my hip and ankle on the other side.

A doctor up at the Mayo prescribed an "unloader brace" to push my knee joint over so the bones don't rub. This gives me time before I have to have the joint replaced. It works very well, I hike now with no pain in that knee and no more problems with my hip joint. I have an Agilium Reactive that I can adjust to how much push on my knee.

Amazon even sells unloader braces if you don't have insurance that would cover one. I don't know how well any of them would work but you may want to look into them to see if a brace would help you.


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I have a job and insurance. When I have surgery in the future I will miss a few months maybe more of work with partial pay and a fairly large amount of out of pocket costs. I have bone on bone in both knees. The orthopedic specialist told me they are beyond repair. Two of my siblings have already had a knee replaced and now need the others replaced as well, one of whom has been a doctor for close to 25 years. I wear a brace on both knees!


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I have a friend who's had great success with Stem Cell Therapy. I've asked her to weigh in here, although I can make no statements on her behalf. My advice is simply to keep refreshing this thread for input.


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I had stem cell therapy on my shoulder. It is just 2 years out as of March. I am now experiencing the same pain I did previously. It is not as severe as it was right before I had the stem cell done. But, it is continually degrading. At first, I thought it was a success. There was relief for a while after the therapy and seemed to be progress. But, that progress stopped and it now seems to be worsening back to were it was prior to therapy. It was an expensive procedure-surgery would have cost less. It is not covered by insurance or at least mine was not. Only 2 years removed and I am just waiting for the pain and weakness to get to a point again where it is affecting my lifestyle. I can only speak for myself and my experience. I made the mistake of not being thorough and asking for long term results references. Make sure you ask the right quesitons.


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crowhillrob, sorry to hear your knees are both worse then mine! Yeah, my much younger sisters have something to look forward to also.

djtx, I guess I won't be thinking is stem cell treatments for my knee this fall. I sure would like anything done to be permanent. But then I do know someone who had to have her replacement knee replaced after she got a staph infection in it.


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from what I have read, IF anyone experiences relief, it is short term; around 4-6 months (which is the same time period as a corticosteroid shot, that IS covered by insurance).

The steroid shots help me, especially my knee (right shoulder left knee --> man I hate this body part failure period of my life!)

and keep in mind, these joint replacement surgeries are not permanent either. They have a life span and most folks have them replaced at least one more time, dependent upon age. That is why I am holding out as long as I can.

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I've had four stem cell procedures. 3 flushes and 1 injection. I've had outstanding results and highly recommend doing so. If you have bone on bone, it will not work. Please ensure that whoever you go to, that they are using your stem cells and that they come from your hip. I also recommend PRP.

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