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There's quite a bit of modern psychology that rises from the foundation of Freud's theories. Piaget's genetic epistemology rises from a psychoanalytical base. Freud's work may be considered a crude beginning, perhaps, but his theories still form the foundation for the practice of psychoanalysis still being used to this day.

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I just went over that . . . what didn't you understand? Are you wholly unfamiliar with the discipline of psychoanalysis and how it is used?

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Please explain exactly how you think Piaget was influenced by Freud. Back it up.


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OMG! I just realized that you must be either a current or retired college gender studies professor. That would explain so much…

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If you had even a Wikipedia level of knowledge about Piaget, you'd know about his history and the path he traveled to develop his theories. Try reading a little bit about Piaget if you're truly interested in acquiring some knowledge on the subject. There are plenty of biographies out there that chronicle his life.

I'm not your professor . . . though it is clearer with every post you make that you are owed a refund on any monies spent towards your education.

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‘Fastest girl in Connecticut’ Chelsea Mitchell suing state after losing to trans athletes

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The 20-year-old is fighting for the integrity of women’s sports after she lost more than 20 races over the course of her high school career — thanks to a Connecticut policy that allows transgender athletes to compete in girls’ sports.

Now, Mitchell, who has declared herself “the fastest girl in Connecticut,” is challenging her state’s policy in court.


I'm so happy this insanity wasn't a reality when my girls were playing sports... I'd be furious. Again, where are all the women, the real women, who should be standing up for these athletes who will never have the advantage males have?
https://nypost.com/2023/05/31/runner-ch ... -fairness/

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No, no, you tried to make a point. Back it up, else I'm going to assume you're just name-dropping without actually knowing anything. How did Freud influence Piaget?

I'll give you a hint: psychoanalysis is to psychology as alchemy is to chemistry.


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Both are stage of development theories, major milestones are reached in both at about the same ages, along with both theories being based on the unconscious mind. Freud theorized this based on psychosexual development, Piaget on cognitive development. Piaget studied under Jung and Bleuler . . . both of whom had theories which grew out of their study and relationship with Freud as well. Piaget developed an interest in the practice of psychoanalysis . . . which led to further exploration in the field and developing his own developmental state theory based upon the observations of his own children along with the investigation of the intelligence tests and why children of certain ages made similar mistakes on those tests. Clearly he was influenced by his exposure to Freud's developmental state theories, that milestones of development are reached at specific points of the child's age . . . he attributed the development to a different level of the unconscious mind, but in many aspects his theories mirrored the construction found in Freud's work.

Erik Erikson is another psychologist whose work developed from Freud, though his stage development theory was psychosocial instead of psychosexual. Freud's attribution for behavior may be mostly disregarded, but his developmental stage model is still found in many of the theories of modern psychology. It is, in many respects, the keystone which bridges most of the theories between the various disciplines into the larger central operation given that most of the psychology practiced today is an amalgamation of many theories rather than devotion to a single discipline.

Thus endeth the lesson . . .

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Good! You looked it up!

I still disagree that Piaget was inspired by Freud. Just because they both had theories about stages of development, doesn't mean that they were related to each other. I'd argue that they were almost diametrically opposed.

Mostly because Piaget's theories aren't based on the unconscious mind. His stuff was based on constructivism - the idea that learning new things is active rather than passive. Everything you learn is constructed upon what you've already got in your brain. All your prior experiences. So you actively look at the new information and you conciously slot it into your mental construction.

Freud's development theory...er...it was all about sex. Should have stuck with Id, Ego, and Superego. Or free association.


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Looked it up . . . :ltotears: :pounding:

Some of us actually had teachers/professors, as opposed to indoctrinators, when we went to school. Notice the absence of anything Amadaun? No links. That's what happens when you have knowledge. You can converse without having to use the Google. ;)

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